Ep. 16 – Thomas Seeley on the Lives of Bees

Dr. Thomas Seeley as a graduate student in 1976. “[When] I started graduate school in 1974 to earn a PhD in biology, and I had to choose a topic for my thesis research, I decided to investigate what honey bees seek when they (not a beekeeper) choose their living quarters,” Dr. Seeley writes. “In doing so, I figured that I could apply to honey bees the ‘know- thy-animal-in-its-world’ rule that I was learning from my thesis adviser at Harvard, the German ethologist Bert Hölldobler. I also hoped that I could foster a new approach to studying honey bees, one in which we view them as amazing wild creatures that live in hollow trees in forests, not just as the ‘angels of agriculture’ that live in white boxes in apiaries.” (Photos courtesy of Thomas Seeley)

In the spring of 1963, when our guest, Dr. Thomas Seeley, was not quite 11 years old, he lived — as he still does today — in a wooded stream valley called Ellis Hollow, which is just east of Ithaca, New York. Dr. Seeley writes: “It is here I first observed a magnificent pileated woodpecker chiseling into a tree for carpenter ants, first watched a steely-eyed snapping turtle laying eggs deep in moist soil, and first showed my pet raccoon how to hunt for crayfish under rocks in little streams… One day, back in early June 1963, I was walking along Ellis Hollow Road, when I heard a loud buzzing sound and saw a bread-truck-size cloud of honey bees circling the ancient black walnut tree that stands beside the road about 100 meters east of my family’s house.” From a distance, Dr. Seeley watched as the swarm of bees took up residence in a cavity in the tree. Why, he wondered, did the bees choose that particular tree cavity for their home?

“If you are a beekeeper, then I hope [this book about] the astonishing natural history of honey bees has inspired you to consider pursuing bee-keeping in a way that focuses less on treating a honey bee colony as a honey factory or a pollination unit and more on admiring it as an amazing form of life,” Dr. Seeley writes in his new book, The Lives of Bees. “More than any other insect, the honey bee has the power to capture our hearts and connect us emotionally with the wonders and mysteries of nature. We love these beautifully social bees, we want them in our back- yards, and many of us cannot bear the idea of living without them.”

Humans have lived with bees for our entire existence as a species, but the vast majority of our studies have focused on bees in managed colonies, whether the clay cylinders people used to keep bees in the Iron Age or the white boxes of modern apiaries. But here, in the black walnut tree, were wild bees — living without human supervision or human understanding. How wild bees lived presented great mystery. Dr. Seeley writes, “I visited [the bee tree] often that summer and gradually overcame my fear of the bees, eventually learning that I could watch them close up (while perched atop a stepladder) without being stung. It was a time of wonder…. Watching that swarm take up residence in that tree on that day is the spark that ignited my long-standing passion to understand how honey bees live in the wild.”

Dr. Thomas Seeley on a “bee hunt,” an outdoor pursuit that was once widely practiced in North America and Europe but is little known today. In his new book The Lives of Bees, Dr. Seeley explains how he uses the craft of “bee hunting” to find the wild bees he studies.

That eleven-year-old in Ithaca grew to become the world’s leading authority on honey bees and a magnificently gifted writer about their worlds. For over four decades, Dr. Thomas Seeley has led research on honey bees’ behavior, social life and ecology. He writes about the science, natural history and surprising stories behind how honey bees live in the wild in his new book: The Lives of Bees: The Untold Story of the Honeybee in the Wild. Dr. Seeley is the Horace White Professor in Biology at Cornell University and is the author of four other books on honey bees.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Seeley about the long historical relationship between humans and honey bees (which is as old as humanity itself), how honey bees live in the wild, why wild honey bees are thriving while managed bee colonies are collapsing at alarming rates, and how applying lessons learned from wild bees can improve our beekeeping.

The red arrow in this photo points to the entrance to a wild bee colony’s nest in Cornell University’s 1,700-hectare Arnot Teaching and Research Forest, where Dr. Seeley has conducted many of his studies of wild honey bees for decades.
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Ep. 5 – Lisa Margonelli on the big ideas termites raise about science, technology, and morality

Termite mound photo by Lisa Margonelli
“When I started the book, the working premise of termites was that you could model them with a little robot,” author Lisa Margonelli says. “In a way that goes back to Descartes, who said that animals are soulless automata… What happened was the termites didn’t really act the way they were expected to act once they were in experimental situations… It was a revelation: the termites themselves were individuals.” (Photo by Lisa Margonelli.)

Nobody loves termites. We admire bees and ants for their industry and for their collective decision-making, but, as our guest has written, while parents dress their children in bee costumes and animated ants star in Dreamworks movies, termites are at best crude cartoons on the side of pest control trucks. These bugs are also comparatively unexplored in academic studies. Between 2000 and 2013, about 6000 papers were published about termites. 49 percent were about how to kill them. Despite the fact that termites collectively outweigh humans ten to one, they have lacked a popular writer to bring them to the forefront of public attention. Our guest, Lisa Margonelli, is that writer and champion for the termites.

Lisa Margonelli Photograph
“It was really kind of a revelation: the termites themselves were individuals,” Margonelli says. “To think that there’s a mound of 5 million termites and they’re individuals, that’s kind of a big thing.”

Her new book, Underbug: An Obsessive Tale of Termites and Technology, introduces us to termites and the scientists who study them, so we can see them — and ourselves — in a way we never have before. But this isn’t just a fascinating book about nature’s most underrated bug. What makes this book really special is that it uses termites as a new portal to explore some of the biggest questions we have about technology, power, morality, the nature of science and scientific progress, where we’ve come from, and where we’re going.

Inside a termite mound, photo by Lisa Margonelli
There are at least 3,000 named species of termites. The genus Macrotermes, which is pictured here and found in Africa and south-east Asia, farms and builds its mound around a massive fungus. The maze resembles a giant wriggling brain, with folds and bends that increase the structure’s surface area. “[We] also have a brain that has a distinct architecture,” says Margonelli. “That architecture gives us certain limits to how to think about things without projecting narratives on them. And one of our biggest narratives is that they are little humans in insect suits giving us a demonstration of how life ought to be.” (Photo by Lisa Margonelli.)
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